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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by MCG » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:32 am

SpyderTC wrote: not sure if anyone knows but the Barrett "sniper" COULD act as a feckin assault rife (it only shoots 380-390) However, anyone dedicated enough to sniping to buy one will probably use it on semi only. Anyway.....
No, dude, you're missing my point. What I'm saying is that an airsoft DMR (take your M16 for instance) is 100% capable of being fired in full auto, though it is against the game rules. The semi-only rule for DMR's is very often disobeyed, though I'm not going to name any names. I agree, anyone who spends the money on an M82 is most likely going to upgrade its FPS well beyond 400, but that doesn't mean that they won't abuse the DMR fps rules.

That's the difference between a airsoft "sniper rifle" in the traditional sense, and a DMR. No bolt action "sniper rifle" can be fired in full-auto... thus separating if from the DMR classification.

Gambler wrote: If someone sets up a Barrett's to fire over 400 fps, then obviously they would not be allowed to fire on FA.
Hence, the Barret (if upgraded) would fall under the DMR rule-set ;)
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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by angelmaker » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:38 am

My M14 was shooting 550 but I had to make it semi only to the point that it couldn't be put into full auto and then just went with the rules.

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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by SpyderTC » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:44 am

MCG wrote: that doesn't mean that they won't abuse the DMR fps rules.
yea you have that sometimes...i was just saying that a stock m82 isnt a dmr or a sniper lol its a 25lb. super long and impractical/awesome assault rife/ glorified m4  :P
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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by Gambler » Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:16 am

MCG, first of all, this isn't the place to accuse people of using DMR's in FA.  If you see this happening on the field get the Game Coordinator to escort that person off the field.  If I ever catching someone using FA in a DMR I will escort them off the field, regardless of who they are.  This is a simple safety issue and will not be tolerated. 

I am also done arguing back and forth.  There are sniper rifles that are semi auto only, not just bolt action.  As Angelmaker did you could pretty much turn any airsoft rifle into a sniper rifle if you wanted to by simply making the gun unable to shoot FA.

The SOCOM Barrett's actually has a 150 spring in it, so it shoots a lot harder than 380-390.  It shoots about 500 out of the box.  It is a simple fix to make the M82 shoot semi as well.

To make you feel better I will say that without this modification it would be considered a DMR, since it could possibly be fired on semi, but the gun is as sniper rifle, not a designated marksman platform.
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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by SteevoLS » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:54 pm

Not to step on the party, but we have no "sniper" rules and no "DMR" rules. The only rule we have is Article III, Rule #7:
With .20 gram BB's:

FPS                    Minimum Engagement                    Fire Selection

450-600            100 feet                                          Semi or bolt action only

400-449            50 feet                                            Semi or bolt action only

341-399            20 feet                                            Full auto

0-340                None                                               Full auto
Absolutely everything else is purely conjecture and opinion. Period. You could use a stubby M4 as a "sniper rifle" in airsoft if you wanted. It is all up to the individual... and that is that.

Unless I'm mistaken, somebody wanted to know what a good, long range assault rifle would be?
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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by SpyderTC » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:02 pm

i was repeating what I had seen everywhere online was the barrett stock velocity was 380-390
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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by SteevoLS » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:03 pm

My post wasn't directed at anyone in particular. It was more of a blanket PSA. ;)
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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by 3rd0ptik » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:04 pm

This might be pointless, but heres what I have for a DMR, and you have seen it..

The Real Sword Type 97..

This gun has a 2 piece gearbox which allows you to change the spring pretty much on the fly.. you want 298fps, 350fps, 396fps, 440fps and so forth no problem.. just change to the desired spring.

The gearbox and motor are high torque and can except any spring, mind you will need a bigger battery, I used a stock mounted battery bag which works perfect.

Now the barrel and hopup must be excellent because their stock RS parts and I am reaching over 300ft.

100 to 200 ft is dead on, even further..

Only downfall, if you find this gun its probably 475.00.

Maybe you can find one cheaper, but concider the cost of a good gun and upgrades the 97 is not a bad option.

Just throwing in my 2 cents. This is what I will use a a DMR.. and if it comes to a CQB game, I just pop in a new spring.

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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by Darth Chuckie » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:15 pm

I'm sure this a dumb-ass question, but I have to ask. What is DMR?
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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by MCG » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:20 pm

chuckam63 wrote: I'm sure this a dumb-hiney question, but I have to ask. What is DMR?
Designate Marksman Rifle.
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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by IronChef » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:00 pm

you play too much airsoft when you argue over what is or isnt a dmr..... :D

some will get it some wont....

and i am going to just put this out there, i havea 500+ fps aeg, but i am not rigging it to shoot semi only for the simple fact it doesnt want to cooperate in semi only. that being said also in nc this gun can be used in FA. so its up to my paranoid son to keep it on semi, only fa if it start to act up and dont aim it at anyone. :D
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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by Vesper » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:14 pm

If my memory serves me right, I think the orginal purpose of SVD Dragunov rifle was to be the DMR.

I'm sure someone will pick it out if I'm wrong.
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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by Jeremy314 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:33 pm

No V, you're absolutely right. The real steel SVD was designed as a DMR, but popular video games and some movies paint it as a true sniper, much like the M21 and M14 EBR suffer from the same stigma.
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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by IronChef » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:38 pm

Vesper wrote: If my memory serves me right, I think the orginal purpose of SVD Dragunov rifle was to be the DMR.

I'm sure someone will pick it out if I'm wrong.
i wasnt going to bring it up, but yes...not only was it a dmr...but the first mass produced semi auto dmr.
u could argue over m14's...depending on what config they are about being snipers or dmrs...
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Re: assault rifle to sniper rifle

Post by Gambler » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:07 pm

Jeremy314 wrote: No V, you're absolutely right. The real steel SVD was designed as a DMR, but popular video games and some movies paint it as a true sniper, much like the M21 and M14 EBR suffer from the same stigma.
Well, considering the USCG uses the M14 EBR as a sniper platform there is a reason people think it is a sniper rifle.  When they show it being used as a sniper rifle in shows like Modern Sniper where they actually talk to snipers and they say they use it as a sniper rifle I think it is safe to say it is a sniper rifle as well as a DMR platform.
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