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OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:34 pm
by Avenger
Re: OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:44 pm
by SteevoLS
If this is the S&T Tavor I think it is, then it has a plastic gearbox and a creaky, flexible ABS body. The chief failing of the ARES is the trigger mechanism. The externals are very nice on the ARES. On the flip side, this gun fixes nothing and is actually worse than the ARES!
Re: OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:53 pm
by Avenger
well, it IS two big ones cheaper
Re: OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:04 pm
by SteevoLS
$200 should *not* buy a gun that actually flexes laterally and has a plastic gearbox. You're paying $200 for a glorified Walmart gun.
Re: OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:11 pm
by Avenger
Yeah, I understand.
I thought it was interesting though, and hoped it would be good.
Re: OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:24 pm
by severed
Just buy a used one if you want one for $200. The Ares is rock solid externally, it's just the stupid trigger switch and the trigger and selector rods that truly are the downfall of the gun. The rods I could live with and if the trigger switch was reversed it'd be an easy fix. With the open to fire trigger circuit it really is a PITA to modify.
Re: OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:32 pm
by Felix
Cheap is a bad word, unless its a valuable rifle. So its not cheap, its reduced.
Re: OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:14 pm
by Echo1 Operator
I messed around with these at SHOT Show. They weigh next to nothing (due to the plastic gearbox) and feel like a cheap toy. You could break it by looking at it wrong.
Re: OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:47 pm
by Avenger
Holy crap, you made a serious post WITHOUT pimping E1. Good job.
Seriously, thanks for the input. I didn't figure it would be much. I don't know if you have any authority in this kind of thing, but E1 should rehaul those JLS F2000s.
Re: OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:15 pm
by Echo1 Operator
Avenger wrote:Holy crap, you made a serious post WITHOUT pimping E1. Good job.
It's crap if it isn't an Echo1, and this gun is a gigantic POS.
Re: OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:20 pm
by SteevoLS
I swear, everybody went to SHOT but me.
Re: OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:32 am
by Romba
I didn't go.

Re: OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:07 am
by Echo1 Operator
Romba wrote:I didn't go.

SHOT isn't for kids. That's what Chuck E. Cheese's is for.
Re: OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:16 am
by Avenger
That's cold.
Re: OMG! CHEAP TAVOR!!! EXCITED!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:46 pm
by D.Smitty
Avenger wrote:That's cold.
Cold, yes...but cold w/o an E1 ad is still an improvement.