Sniper Rifle

[Rev]

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We are not trying to be jerks about it we just know from experience that many people want a gun that looks cool and really big. Then they get their M60 or some type of heavy weapon and they hate to carry it all day. I have carried a SAW or 60 for 3 years and I still hate it. Not counting all the other equipment I have in my load out it sucks at games like Fulda or even TT games where its all hills.

Ask Felix by the end of Black Water I was ready to die from the MK43 on my shoulder all day. It sucks unless you have a reason to run something like that just stick with a AEG. 9 times out of 10 a sniper has no advantage because people do not play the role right. Same goes with a support gun most people try to run them as AEGs with big mags, when it is not even close to that. I go through about 5-10k rounds in a normal op and thats just to lay cover fire.

[Star_folder]

Hmmm, given the choice, I would go with the first one, simply because it's an AEG. I carry around a 15lb gun, it's not that bad. However, it's a bullpup, and I've got slings and such to help carry the weight. After a full day of carrying the gun, it does start to wear on a person. Running won't be bad except that it's a 4ft gun, you can speak with any of our other designated marksmen on how fun it is to run through the woods with a 4ft. *cough* cough* skywalker *cough* steevo *cough*.

With any upgrades, you upgrade consistency first, then durability, and lastly power.

That means you get your air compression solid first, idk about upgrading the bolt action, but an AEG would probably need a new air nozzle at least. Most likely a new o-ring and some teflon tape here and there.

Then you want to look at upgrading the hop up, bucking, and barrel, barrel being the LEAST important. As a matter of fact, you could just leave the barrel out until the last thing on the gun. It's that unimportant. The hop up is where the accuracy of a gun comes from, and that's where you'll get 60% of your accuracy, 39% comes from the weight and quality of bbs, and 1% is from the barrel.

Next, you'll want your durability upgrades. That means stronger gears, a torque motor, and a stronger piston, along with diy stuffs for an AEG, or stronger sears, trigger mech, piston for the BASR.

Last, is the spring. Last is the spring. Last is the spring. Power without control is dangerous, and fps without accuracy is useless.

[Hatch]

I thought I read somewhere in the rules that you had to be 18 to use a DMR.

[Star_folder]

I thought I read somewhere in the rules that you had to be 18 to use a DMR.

The exception to the FPS limits and MEDs above occurs on any field deemed by the Game Directors to be a CQB field. On all CQB fields there is an absolute limit of 300 FPS with a .25 gram BB. Full auto is allowed and there is no MED. With direct approval from the AOSC Game Director Representative hosting a particular CQB game, a player may use an airsoft gun on semi auto only that is higher than 400FPS with a .25g BB, but not more than 560 FPS with a .25. They will have a 100ft MED. Also, with said direct approval a player may use a bolt action airsoft gun from 301FPS-560 FPS with a .25, they will have a 100ft MED. Only players who have proven themselves responsible and rule abiding will be given this permission, and players under the age of 18 may not obtain it. This permission is on a case by case basis per game.

It says it under a section speaking about CQB FPS rules, but does not directly state the age limit for field games under normal FPS rules. Thus, I don't believe there is a specific age limit for field games for people wielding sniper rifles or DMRs, only for CQB fields. Which makes sense. I've seen many a "kid" running around with sniper rifles that are known to shoot in the 100ft MED, yet haven't been restricted from using the gun. If the rule is there, and I missed it, it is not reinforced at field games.

[C Taylor]

Here is 2 links that can help you get a head start on either an AEG or a Bolt Action

This first is a DMR build.
http://airsoftsniper.proboards.com/inde ... hread=1291

Here is a start to gradually building a bolt action. I hijacked this info from this site. I do not take credit for this.
http://airsoftsniper.proboards.com/inde ... hread=1624





Here is my recommendation for upgrade order. This is based off Zulu's thread, and this will be like a little summary

First Upgrade Purchases
1. PDI hop up chamber: allows use of aeg barrels and buckings
2. AEG tightbore barrel (6.03mm to 6.05mm recommended.) Stock barrel length is 499mm, but a 509mm barrel will suffice if the end cap is removed. A flash hider will provide cover for the small bit of barrel that is extended.
3. Soft bucking and nubbing (possibly polar stars concave spacer--is a nubbing)
4. Heavy weight bbs (madbulls are nice)
5. PDI repair kit: Cheap kit, with spare pieces for PDI hop up unit.

Second Upgrade Purchases
1. Cylinder head, spring guide, cylinder, and piston and accuracy cup. I prefer laylax parts but PDI parts are also very high quality.
-Note: the cylinder being the most expensive is not necessary with the purchase of the spring guide, piston, and cylinder head. The stock cylinder will suffice just fine for now.
2. Trigger sear and piston sear. Although, the stock sears held up extremely fine, and show no signs of wear after three years of use.

Third Upgrade Purchases
1. Zero trigger
2. If not bought yet, a teflon cylinder
3. Heavier spring (note how other internal parts were upgraded before the spring was. This is very important

Fourth upgrade purchases
1. Flash hider adapter
2. Flash hider
3. New bolt handle
Note how these are not necessary upgrade parts. Some offer good durability upgrades, whiles others are for looks 8-)

[Dominum]

1: Star is right about the rule
2: All of the experienced people giving you advice are right, listen to them
3: Felix, bolt action rifles do not have air nozzles, they are integrated into the cylinder head

Anthony, don't spend $1K on a sniper rifle until you know for sure you want to play the role. Be someone's spotter for a couple games. Then, make a smart buy. Don't buy a giant heavy gun for no reason.

[Avenger]

Dom, I have sniped with our stock L96 in backyard battles, and, while the gun is woefully inadequate against real guns, I enjoyed using it agianst Walmart shotguns. I like the role, and I understand how it works. Thanks for the advice!

Kory, thanks for a straight answer finally!

C Taylor, I've got a feeling that those two links are going to be invaluable, but I just skimmed over them. Thanks!

I'm not really into countersniping, I'm more fo ranti-personnel work

[Gambler]

Sniping on backyard games isn't nearly the same as doing it at a normal game. There are very few snipers in airsoft for a reason. Even a highly upgraded sniper rifle doesn't give you much of an advantage over a hi quality AEG. With the distances involved in airsoft after you get your first or second shot off the other team will be on top of you and inside your MED, so you better have a quality sidearm. Most people seem to get bored being snipers, because they aren't in the action all the time. You might want to actually come out and play a few games before making such a big decision. Sniper rifles are money pits.

[Felix]

Second that money pit thing. Especially when you get Satan himself to power the motor of your DMR, and it still is screwy...

[Avenger]

I know what I'm getting into here guys. I just need to know how to get into it.

[Bishop]

And almost all of these posts have told you exactly how to do it. Your problem is that your too stubborn to actually listen to anyone's opinion unless it exactly matches what you already think.

[slickridley]

And almost all of these posts have told you exactly how to do it. Your problem is that your too stubborn to actually listen to anyone's opinion unless it exactly matches what you already think.

in short Confirmation Bias.

[C Taylor]

Even a highly upgraded sniper rifle doesn't give you much of an advantage over a hi quality AEG. Most people seem to get bored being snipers, because they aren't in the action all the time.

I can disagree with both on a personal level. You can be in the thick of everything and still be tearing people up. I personally like to run with a group with my upgraded no scoped sniper rifle. Its a thrill to only have one shot compared to many.

[Gambler]

Even a highly upgraded sniper rifle doesn't give you much of an advantage over a hi quality AEG. Most people seem to get bored being snipers, because they aren't in the action all the time.

I can disagree with both on a personal level. You can be in the thick of everything and still be tearing people up. I personally like to run with a group with my upgraded no scoped sniper rifle. Its a thrill to only have one shot compared to many.

The difference Chad is you aren't acting as a sniper. You are acting as an assault troop with a sniper rifle. He says he wants to be a sniper.

[SteevoLS]

The difference Chad is you aren't acting as a sniper. You are acting as an assault troop with a sniper rifle designated marksman. He says he wants to be a sniper.

Fixed that for you.