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Classic Army G36c

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:01 pm
by Stomper87
Hey guys, I seem to be having a problem with my CA G36c not firing. If I take off the handgrip and move the barrel forward a little, then it fires again. However, I need to move it back so I can place my hanguard back on. Is this a problem with the hop-up being misaligned?

If you need any pics, i can post them.

Re: Classic Army G36c

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:07 pm
by Dominum
So when the barrel is in it's normal position, it does nothing at all when the trigger is pulled?

Re: Classic Army G36c

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:09 pm
by Stomper87
Dominum wrote:So when the barrel is in it's normal position, it does nothing at all when the trigger is pulled?
No, it fires, it just doesn't feed. And I'm using Madbull .25 bb's, if that helps any.

Re: Classic Army G36c

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:10 pm
by Bushmaster
Sounds like the same problem I had with my G36. The air nozzle extends a little too far into the hop-up and keeps the BBs from getting in. All I did was make some little shims out of card-board and put them between the gearbox and the hop-up so that it would sit a little farther forward. That seemed to work fine for me.

Re: Classic Army G36c

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:11 pm
by Dominum
^It is almost definitely this.

Re: Classic Army G36c

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:14 pm
by Stomper87
Bushmaster wrote:Sounds like the same problem I had with my G36. The air nozzle extends a little too far into the hop-up and keeps the BBs from getting in. All I did was make some little shims out of card-board and put them between the gearbox and the hop-up so that it would sit a little farther forward. That seemed to work fine for me.
That makes sense, now where exactly on the gearbox would I put them?

Re: Classic Army G36c

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:38 pm
by Dominum
Between the front of the GB shell and the rear of the hopup chamber where it makes contact with said shell.

Re: Classic Army G36c

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:45 pm
by Bushmaster
^what he said, that's exactly what I did. Just make sure they aren't blocking the air nozzle and you should be good to go. If you have trouble getting it right, I could do it for you at TDC. :)

Re: Classic Army G36c

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:06 pm
by Stomper87
Bushmaster wrote:^what he said, that's exactly what I did. Just make sure they aren't blocking the air nozzle and you should be good to go. If you have trouble getting it right, I could do it for you at TDC. :)
Thanks for the offer, but I believe I just fixed it! Thanks for the help! I probably would of never thought of a solution like that.

Re: Classic Army G36c

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:12 pm
by Dominum
That's why I'm here ;)

Re: Classic Army G36c

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:15 am
by Bushmaster
Dominum wrote:That's why we're here ;)

Re: Classic Army G36c

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:13 pm
by Dominum
You weren't the first person I showed that to Jakob ;)

Re: Classic Army G36c

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:27 pm
by Bushmaster
Technically you didn't actually show it to me, Stephen did and I just confirmed it with you. :P

Re: Classic Army G36c

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:29 am
by adjunog
When the cardboard becomes flattened and worn then its time to fix it permanently. There is an advanced timing nub that fits over the sector gear's nub. This timing nub is a piece of metal that allows the tappet plate to be pushed further back and pulls back the air nozzle more so BBs can feed into the hop-up. It can be reversed for however much pull you need.
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Re: Classic Army G36c

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:09 pm
by Dominum
First of all, that doesn't pull it further back, it simply pulls it back sooner than the sector gear alone would. Secondly, that is not at all related to the issue he is having. His feeding issue is not caused by improper timing of the air nozzle's travel (which is only an issue in high ROF setups), but by a misalignment of the hopup chamber which has been remedied.