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by IronChef » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:42 pm
there are no innocents in a war zone....
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we(NATO) try to hard to be pc about targets...hell the us alone invest millions in precision weapons...
my feelings are if u hide behind a school/mosque/church/hospital...dont blame the person who bombed u, blame the person who uses u as cover...

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by Vesper » Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:30 pm
Amen to that, Ironchef.
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by Straightshot » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:33 pm
We're the super power, we use the .223, enough said.

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by Slate » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:45 pm
The main reason we don't use 7.62 (.308) is because war today is fought more with knowledge than it is with sheer brute force. A wounded enemy can still give up the location of fifty of his buddies if he's bleeding out for a half hour.
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by GARRETT » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:50 pm
I'll take a 22 cal and do some nasty damage. But if I were to choose between the two it would be the 223.
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by IronChef » Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:16 pm
Slate wrote:
The main reason we don't use 7.62 (.308) is because war today is fought more with knowledge than it is with sheer brute force. A wounded enemy can still give up the location of fifty of his buddies if he's bleeding out for a half hour.
or keep shooting at you and YOUR buddies....
thats why we use both calibers side by side...
and so do the ak users 7.62 and 5.45....
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by calebbrady » Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:08 pm
i am going to try to revive this thread and say, it really depends on where you hit your target with a .223 at the base of the neck your target is dead, and a .223 to the arm will most likely not. but this can go for the 7.62 as well. and we have more red dots, etc wich lead to more percise shots. So i think it depends on were you aim, but I'd personally go with the .223 because it's lighter and it can kill you.
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by Gambler » Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:31 am
calebbrady wrote:i am going to try to revive this thread and say, it really depends on where you hit your target with a .223 at the base of the neck your target is dead, and a .223 to the arm will most likely not. but this can go for the 7.62 as well. and we have more red dots, etc wich lead to more percise shots. So i think it depends on were you aim, but I'd personally go with the .223 because it's lighter and it can kill you.
You think it depends on where you aim? Of course it depends on where you aim. Shoot anyone in the head with any caliber rifle and you are more than likely going to kill them. If you shoot someone through the heart it doesn't matter if you do it with a BB they are going to die. As most people pointed out over 6 months ago, there are a combination of factors that led to the decision, but this isn't one of them.
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by calebbrady » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:43 am
you're right, i missed the point. but .233
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by TeamBadCompany » Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:42 pm
In terms of kinetic energy, hollowpoints would be best, they dont exit the body as easily as a boat tail round

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by Vesper » Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:51 pm
TeamBadCompany wrote:In terms of kinetic energy, hollowpoints would be best, they dont exit the body as easily as a boat tail round
In terms of accuracy, hollowpoints suck.
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by TeamBadCompany » Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:16 pm
They also move faster

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by Vesper » Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:01 am
You don't understand. Military doesn't only engage targets within a hundred feet. Sometimes they engage targets from more than a hundred yards away. Have fun shooting them with hollowpoints.
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by TeamBadCompany » Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:13 pm
can the use teflon rounds or whatever they are made of?

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by Echo1 Operator » Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:23 pm
My teflon coated cookware can defeat body armor.
GARRETT wrote:I'll take a 22 cal and do some nasty damage. But if I were to choose between the two it would be the 223.
.223 is a .22 caliber.
A military caliber debate using the commercial cartridges

.223/.308 are not the same as 5.56X45/7.62x51.