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Russian AR15!?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:32 pm
by SteevoLS
Funny how just as we hear whispers of a russian "mystery rifle", an Izhmash subsidiary starts manufacturing an AR15 knockoff.
Izhmash subsidiary Molot to manufacturer Russian AR-15 rifle!
In a Russian AK manufacturer Molot, who are a subsidiary of AK-74/AK-1xx maker Izhmash and who make the VEPR AK-style rifles, announced at the Moscow ARMS & Hunting '11 expo that they would be producing an AR-15 style rifle called the HPE-140 (впо-140). The rifle is in a M4 configuration and includes a quad rail, ergonomic pistol grip and muzzle brake. It weighs ~7 lbs. I never thought I would see the day that a subsidiary of Izhmash would produce an AR-15. It is a pity Eugene Stoner did not live to the worldwide popularity of his invention.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011 ... -15-rifle/
Re: Russian AR15!?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:44 pm
by Felix
So russians are finally catching on?
Re: Russian AR15!?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:03 pm
by Bishop
Re: Russian AR15!?
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:12 am
by SteevoLS
The joke of it is it will probably be a pretty nicely manufactured AR.
Re: Russian AR15!?
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:34 am
by VoidSuicide
If they build it like they built AKs, then I guess we can expect to see plenty of them built like rocks.
I'd say cheap too, but I don't know the price of a new AR variant vs a new AK variant, and would end up looking stupid.
Re: Russian AR15!?
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:47 am
by SteevoLS
Cheap AR15 = $700ish
Cheap AK* = $300ish
Re: Russian AR15!?
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:14 am
by Vesper
Re: Russian AR15!?
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:04 pm
by Echo1 Operator
stupid rushans can't even mount the carry handle correctly
Re: Russian AR15!?
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:49 pm
by Avenger
The pistol grip looks comfy.
Oh, yrah.
WHAT ARE THE RUSKIES DOING WITH AN AMERICAN GUN!!!
Re: Russian AR15!?
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:04 am
by Hotspur93
AR999 wrote:The pistol grip looks comfy.
Oh, yrah.
WHAT ARE THE RUSKIES DOING WITH AN AMERICAN GUN!!!
Considering it's not any kind of classified weapon they probably just bought one, took it apart, put it back together again after changing a few things (comfy pistol grip maybe), and slapped a new name on it. Also a lot of guns classified as "American" were actually designed somewhere else. Like the M249 SAW for example, I believe that was developed in Switzerland, but don't quote me on that one.
Re: Russian AR15!?
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:38 am
by SteevoLS
We're not talking about chinese factories here. I'm sure this rifle was 100% manufactured in Russia from standard AR15 specs. On the flip side, that grip and rail look like cheapo UTG products.
Re: Russian AR15!?
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:40 am
by Echo1 Operator
Hotspur93 wrote:AR999 wrote:The pistol grip looks comfy.
Oh, yrah.
WHAT ARE THE RUSKIES DOING WITH AN AMERICAN GUN!!!
Like the M249 SAW for example, I believe that was developed in Switzerland, but don't quote me on that one.
FN Minimi is Belgian. The M249 SAW is made in Columbia, SC.
Re: Russian AR15!?
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:31 am
by Psycho Sam
any news on sale for civ.s? been looking for a AR as a little gift to self, a russian 1 would be a bigger conversation starter that a olympic or bushmaster. (not that an ar on your living room walls lacks any conversation starting)
Re: Russian AR15!?
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:04 am
by SteevoLS
Honestly, I doubt this will hit American soil anytime soon. If you want a quality, inexpensive AR pick up something like a CMMG.
Re: Russian AR15!?
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:32 pm
by Echo1 Operator
SteevoLS wrote:Honestly, I doubt this will hit American soil ever
Fixed..no point in buying one, anyway. There are numerous high quality AR manufacturers in the US. Olympic Arms not being one of them.