DOM HELP ME!!!!

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DOM HELP ME!!!!

Post by Rev » Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:58 am

Or anyone who knows about my problem...

"Candi" my SAW has a compression problem I have never done a compression job before what do I need to do and what do I need to buy to fix it. 
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Re: DOM HELP ME!!!!

Post by SteevoLS » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:27 pm

Elaborate a little; have you torn it down yet, or do you just know your gun isn't shooting right?
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Re: DOM HELP ME!!!!

Post by Rev » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:47 pm

We have had the GB opened and had to replace the trigger switch and put a new set of gears in.  It is shooting about 100 fps lower then what it was. I have a 110 spring in there and it is shooting 258.
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Re: DOM HELP ME!!!!

Post by SteevoLS » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:24 pm

Open it again, and inspect the air nozzle, cylinder head, and piston head. Odds are one of those is the culprit. Does your hopup seem to function properly?
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Re: DOM HELP ME!!!!

Post by GARRETT » Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:38 pm

Don't forget your piston o-ring
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Re: DOM HELP ME!!!!

Post by Rev » Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:43 pm

Well we opened the GB I dont think it was the compression the gears moved and rubbed my piston too much and caused my piston to break. We are thinking the gear being messed up caused the problem.
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Post by Dominum » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:01 pm

There are many possibilities and it needs to be broken down and looked over piece by piece by an experienced tech to find out where exactly the failing is. Though, it is possible that you got a bad chrono reading too.
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Re: DOM HELP ME!!!!

Post by IronChef » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:26 pm

shoot someone with it, nothing better than a live chrono target....
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Post by Veimos » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:03 pm

IronChef wrote: shoot someone with it, nothing better than a live chrono target....
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Re: DOM HELP ME!!!!

Post by Gabe » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:29 am

If the chrono is bad, an empty soda can is a good place to start.  Shoot perpendicular through the side.  If it's shooting as low as you say, it won't go through both sides.  Be sure to use a .2g.

If it's not the chrono, check all of your bore components.  This includes your piston/piston head, cylinder/cylinder head, nozzle, tappet plate, sector gear chip, and hopup.  As previously stated, don't open it up if you don't know what you're doing.  You'll only end up pissing off a normally polite technician when you bring them a bag of parts.

If you're unsure of what faults to look for in each part, go ahead and say so.  Me or some other tech will surely give you what you need to know.
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Re: DOM HELP ME!!!!

Post by SteevoLS » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:34 am

Be sure to use a namebrand Coca-Cola product can. Different manufacturers' cans are not all made to the same specs, and therefore are not necessarily a good approximation of your FPS.
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Re: DOM HELP ME!!!!

Post by Jeremy314 » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:58 am

FYI Steevo and Dom,

This is the SAW that I have been talking to you guys about. I've checked the O-rings, Cylinder head, and air nozzle and I see nothing wrong with them. No deformities, no cracks, nothing that looks out of the ordinary. Now we did strip a piston  this past weekend, but apparently that has nothing to do with the low FPS problem present before the stripping. Our chrono is brand new (just got it last week), so I'm not sure if it's gone bad already.

And if anyone is using the Poor man's chrono, you need to take off at least 15 FPS based on the original poor man's chrono averages as coke cans have been changed a bit and are not as thick as they were when the PMC first started being used.
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Post by Dominum » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:10 pm

Well then, it sounds like a tech needs to give it a look.
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Re: DOM HELP ME!!!!

Post by theboss62 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:35 am

use your other guns on the chrono to see if it is reading correctly :P
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Re: DOM HELP ME!!!!

Post by Rev » Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:30 am

the chrono is fine it has all the other guns at the right FPS, we think we found the problem just waiting for the part to come in to fix it.
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