Suggestions for a secondary

[Avenger]

Avenger, why do you care if he posts here or not? And how about having more input than saying something sucks?

Whether or not something sucks as a sidearm IS the point here, is't it.

Explanation- (Because he will surely curse my entire bloodline with a thousand years of darkness if I don't.)

KWA M11s are notorious for splitting apart at the seams. I have seen them held together with bipties and tape, and noone wants that. The also have internal reliability probles, like 99% of fully automatic GBB SMGs(GBB rifles may also have problems, but I have never researched it. The M11 is one of my dream guns, and I have researched it, and I know what I'm talking about) There are alternatives, such as the HFC and Tactical Force, but these are even more unreliable. KWA makes some of the best gas guns, and HFC everything is known to be crap. As far as Elite Force goes, it's a sporting goods-store brand.

[marpat96]

KWA M11s are the best GBB guns for the money, $140, and you get one excellent CQB weapon. I'm not sure where you're getting this from.

Back on topic: Kalistur, just go with the AKs. SteevoLS answered his question, and Kalistur said "good idea, thank you." No more discussion is needed, or on what guns suck and who why someone posts from another country.

[Kalistur]

Back on topic: Kalistur, just go with the AKs. SteevoLS answered his question, and Kalistur said "good idea, thank you." No more discussion is needed, or on what guns suck and who why someone posts from another country.

Exactly, no need for hostilities. Let's save it for the battlefield. But yes, like SteevoLS said, I'm probably getting a 74-u later on just out of convenience, but for now I need to bulk up the bank account before I do anything.

[slimshady222]

Don't buy an M11. Seriously, they're crap.

Slim, if you're in another COUNTRY, wh do you still post on here?

OK first off hes looking for a sidearm not a long range rifle so this gun would be perfect it has a 50rd mag and semi or full auto capability's Second the rate of fire is amazing on this gun. Third iv owned one for 5 years and its been through hell and iv never even had to replace the mag and yes there is a small crack on the side but for 5 years its held up amazingly. Not trying to start an argument here but the reason I care is because I can so either quit complaining about my suggestions or learn a thing or 2 about what your talking about.

[Avenger]

Back on topic: Kalistur, just go with the AKs. SteevoLS answered his question, and Kalistur said "good idea, thank you." No more discussion is needed, or on what guns suck and who why someone posts from another country.

Exactly, no need for hostilities. Let's save it for the battlefield. But yes, like SteevoLS said, I'm probably getting a 74-u later on just out of convenience, but for now I need to bulk up the bank account before I do anything.

Slim it's over.


At least, until you get my M on the matte

[Avenger]

Don't buy an M11. Seriously, they're crap.

Slim, if you're in another COUNTRY, wh do you still post on here?

OK first off hes looking for a sidearm not a long range rifle so this gun would be perfect it has a 50rd mag and semi or full auto capability's Second the rate of fire is amazing on this gun. Third iv owned one for 5 years and its been through hell and iv never even had to replace the mag and yes there is a small crack on the side but for 5 years its held up amazingly. Not trying to start an argument here but the reason I care is because I can so either quit complaining about my suggestions or learn a thing or 2 about what your talking about.

1. I NEVER mentioned ANYTHING about performance.
2. It doesn't have full auto woth good ROF, it has shorgun mode. Theres a difference.
3. Everything I said about it was told to me by Dominum.
5. As to your's being so great, you got a cherry. I hav a walmart springer that's gone through thousands of rounds over three years. Strange crap happens when they make guns.

[atl]

What happened to number 4? Also I've shot the gun plenty and have used at a game and it has a great rof. Trust me it's a good gun. The only problem is carrying the propane.

[slimshady222]

Fix that by using green gas its fits in alot more magazine pouches

[slimshady222]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU4IZz1fL4c
Personally avenger I really dont care what you think I think this guy would like the gun.

[Kalistur]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU4IZz1fL4c
Personally avenger I really dont care what you think I think this guy would like the gun.

No good. I don't like gas

[slimshady222]

They also make a co2 version.

[Kalistur]

They also make a co2 version.

I don't want a gas-powered gun in general, green gas OR co2. I use AEG's, I don't like the hassle and upkeep of gas guns.

[Dominum]

I didn't say they were crap, and though I have had mag leaking issues with them, that happens with most GBBs at some point. I did say they have some issues though: http://www.southcarolinaairsoft.com/php ... ead#unread

Lots of good advice, but the best is probably to buy a short inexpensive AK if you are on a tight budget. Like Stephen said, mag compatibly means money savings. Just make sure you lower the FPS because what you will buy will almost certainly be above CQB limits.