Operation GNS: Georgia vs. North Carolina vs. South Carolina

[D.Smitty]

Let's focus on getting a place for this hypothetical game, first off.

As for radios, give players different levels of status depending on the level of equipment/organization they bring. Have them register as a group and give them certain color tickets.
Full squad w/ radios: Commandos
No squad w/ radio: Solider
No squad or radio: Militia

Certain objectives can only be earned by Commandos, for example (have an admin ask for tickets when they try to score). Appoint Soldiers to lead groups of militia to keep them in the loop (I would be willing to do this, for example).

The idea is to ENCOURAGE radios or staying near players with radios w/o killing the game for the normal player.
Attach a drawback to being isolated militia such as only soldiers or commandos can be medics.

It's airsoft: Keep your objectives in the forefront, do what you can to keep the action from dying down to spawnkilling or trench warfare, but ALWAYS do so in the context of an ongoing firefight between factions.

[popo9878]

great point smitty with the status levels. sqa would be a great field meeting between both GA and NC with SC being a balancer between the two states. seeing that GA has more players than NC and SC. the best time would be somewhere between June and August. seeing that most of our player base is still in school so it will be best due to summer break and a 2 month advance notice which we have to get our new gear for the summer. also a two day game with a night game would definatley draw more of a crowd. with one main objective and multiple secondary objectives would keep the action going as long as people stick with the missions and not just make it TDM. all and all this game is a great thought and would like to see it happen

[jsts ghost]

Not to press this point off to the side, many players forget that radios are a blessing and a curse.

Let us say you have a squad called "ankle shooters" that have economical radios with no sub-channels and only go up to ch22! And because of how the radio matrix is set up for command to relay orders to all groups, they must have main command channels set for three whole channels (one for assault force, one for mission force, and one for joint communication). And we have odds channels only for our fraction. That will 10 whole channels free. Well "ankle shooters" will have to have one whole channel for their squad channel.
But wait, let us have it setup for platoons. 4 platoons will need their own whole channel for communication. That just dropped the a available channels down to 6. There are more than 6 squads that have economical radios. So "ankle shooters" and other teams will do what they feel is needed for them to use their radios.

Then those that have a radio just to listen to what is going on. Well how many times do we have to find the player who is on VOX! So what works good. Stay close with your squadmates. Shut your radio off unless you get lost. And just trust your leadership to relay info to your squad.

But we are an individualistic weekend warriors. That will not happen. So save your money buy a good programmable radio. And you will talk about your date or the location of your next target on your secure radios net.

[fallout11]

Great posts SteevoLS and Jsts ghost. I could not agree with you guys more.
That said, right now the most important issues are locating a suitable venue and a proposed date. The smaller details can always be hammered out.

[specter]

Well, I say that it happens when it's a little cooler out, since you don't want to just get hot and leave halfway through. That could also bring out more people, since some aren't exactly hot-weather players. I personally think that Redfox would be great, as would the airfarm but SQA would probably be best, due to a very centralized location and decent size. The Airfarm was fun, easy to get around, and has good size, but has very few structures. and like at TDC, if you suck bad enough, they'll just spawn camp the whole game. Redfox doesn't have as much parking/camping room, but it is very built up. Sadly, it is very hilly, which will tire players out quickly. Iv'e never been to SQA but I did stalk it on google earth, and it looks like the best mix of locale, camping/parking space, and structure.
just my 2 cents.

[Felix]

What if, and this is a big what if, we rent a facility for use?
There are plenty of big plants or woods that have gone south, and since deer season ends, most people might be ok with use.
One place I could think of was a shutdown Milliken plant with a lot of nearby woods that was for sale right outside of Ninety-Six.

[marpat96]

I think Kory and Mr. Escue should decide what goes on at SQA, if they even want 300 or 400 or even 500 people on their property directly behind their house. Hilly? Redfox being hilly? Fulda Gap has some of the worst hills I've ever been up on. Airfarm now has formidable structures, but yes. First things first:

1. Get a site for this game
2. Make a date
3,4,5,6,7,100 all fall in after that

Felix there are TONs of old mill plants in Augusta, but it may be a drive if we rent those out and NC players come. Ninety Six? Thats about as good a place we can get.

[atl]

But we are an individualistic weekend warriors. That will not happen. So save your money buy a good programmable radio. And you will talk about your date or the location of your next target on your secure radios net.

Not are squad, we have already had a training session not too long ago and we are planning on having another one in January. My dad was in the Australian Army reserves for 10 years doing infantry stuff and was attached to a special forces unit for a year as a weapons sergeant and Iam_Hoss was in the reserves for 8 years I believe, and they teach us squad tactics. We have yet to be all on one team at one game besides fulda which was too big to use squad level tactics. But my dad and most likely Iam_Hoss who gladly put on a training session for this and it would triple the efficiency if people learned basic squad level tactics and we would have to come back another day to learn basic platoon level tactics, note very basic given it's just 1-2 days of training but still would increase the effectiveness of are players alot and make it very easy to command.

[Mad Magpul]

What if, and this is a big what if, we rent a facility for use?

I second this idea! I think it would be a lot of fun. We would just have to find a place that would let us rent but besides that its a great idea!

[RangerGranger]

Maybe Ft. Jackson has a space they use for training they'd lend out if we do it for charity. Wounded Warrior Project maybe? Never hurts to ask.

[idiot88]

Maybe Ft. Jackson has a space they use for training they'd lend out if we do it for charity. Wounded Warrior Project maybe? Never hurts to ask.

The SCAA had a few games there sometime prior to May, 2007, but then the Army said no more. We also had a game at the SCANG Fort McCready MOUT site in 2008, but that area is too small for this game.

I hope the date in not near July/August due to the heat.

[atl]

Maybe Ft. Jackson has a space they use for training they'd lend out if we do it for charity. Wounded Warrior Project maybe? Never hurts to ask.

Given my dad's training was mainly cold war tactics which was mainly fields/woods(which is what mainly the fields are in sc) not really cqb room clearing the airfarm would be a perfect place though we use pbc since it's close.

[jsts ghost]

Well it is up to the organizer if they wish to make this event for charity. And with some of the mover and shakers in the AOSC, we hope that they will think about getting this ball on the road.

I, as well as Marpat, wanted to repair the damage that Airdog and the AOSC leadership, at that event, had, be repaired with an event to mend the bridge.

This would be a good thing to have at the end of April. It will fall on a weekend that would not effect school and get enough time to ask for time off from most jobs. The temp would not be to much of an issue as well.

Yes, this event should be held here in SC. No Redfox would not let us camp over the weekend or have 24 hour events in the past! I would not see them doing the same. Plus that is to far for most of the GA teams to travel.
Airfarm would be a good location to have another border war. Yes it is still a distance for some of the teams.
SQA would be in the same boat with Airfarm, but as some would know, I would not want to wish 200 players camping on my backyard.

As Atl had stated, Cqb is not a big thing here in SC because we have more backyard and fields, with little to no structures. So have a location such as "John Lu" A.O.s, would not work for our younger members. And classes will not help most. People only want to shoot others, not learn how to work like a team. So having training events just is not a practical thing.

Three states teams is a bad idea. I saw how out numbered the last GA vs SC was balanced. Have special rules for teams that cannot raise that many players, just because the player base is not there is not a wise idea. NC would out number us, 3-1! And GA would be, 1.5-1. Not a wise thing.

As Fallout has stated, very few (and only once) has true three fraction events work well. That was a pre-reg'ed event. Well most of our player base cannot even say they will be there until the night before.

We want an event to fix what became a bad taste in most mouths, not for me because I will keep pushing until the end! So if you want to go with Dom's three state game, go for it. I will be there. But it will be a mountain of sore feelings and bad tempers. As a Chief Master Sergeant once told me, and I try to live by it, "Keep it simple, stupid!"

My rant is over for now...

[marpat96]

Georgia vs. The Carolinas......its a maybe?

[idiot88]

<snip> No Redfox would not let us camp over the weekend or have 24 hour events in the past! I would not see them doing the same.<snip>

I agree with most of what you said except for the above statement. We have camped there at least twice. The last one that I know of was August 6-7, 2011, Dunundistan II. Unless of course they could have changed their minds since then.